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Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: January 08, 2010, 12:12:20 PM »

It sounds like this is a reoccurring them across ND campuses... to ban tobacco or smoking.  What college/universities now have bans?

Bismarck State College
Lake Region
NDSU
UND
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Posted by: Sal Atticum
« on: January 08, 2010, 11:08:17 AM »

Lake Region State College is banning tobacco now too: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/146810/
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar
« on: October 25, 2008, 10:32:35 AM »

Posted by: Sal Atticum
« on: March 26, 2008, 03:26:36 PM »



Cyanide & Happiness @ Explosm.net
Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: March 03, 2008, 11:25:09 PM »

Quote
FARGO (AP) — New smoking restrictions at North Dakota State University will take effect July 1.

NDSU President Joseph Chapman has signed off on a policy that prohibits smoking within 50 feet of buildings.

NDSU’s student government, university senate and staff senate recommended the new policy.
Posted by: Sal Atticum
« on: February 22, 2008, 08:33:29 AM »

It's worse than ever, in my opinion.  Now we get cigarette butts all over the ground all over campus, and people still light them before they even get out the door.
Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:52:57 PM »

Wouldn't moderation of smoking be a good thing too?  Why don't we just make it so cigarettes have to be shorter thana  certain length?  That would really screw with people, but it might help them quit.

Sure.  Do it, be the change you want to see ;)
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:51:39 PM »

Wouldn't moderation of smoking be a good thing too?  Why don't we just make it so cigarettes have to be shorter thana  certain length?  That would really screw with people, but it might help them quit.
Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: February 12, 2008, 10:03:45 AM »

Cheesburgers are not necissarily bad for you, moderation is the key... do you have proof for your claims?

If cheese burgers affected me in such a negative way as second hand smoke does than I would worry. Second hand smoke is a leading cause of health problems.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar
« on: February 12, 2008, 09:59:13 AM »


You can't think like that!  That way lies madness!  If we work out "best for most people" no more good food, no more dangerous sports, no more driving no more freedom.

How did you come to those conclusions?

It is best for most people coupled with a cost/benefit analysis.

Not eating cheeseburgers would help keep the average cholesterol in the US down, which would put less stress on the health care system, which would mean fewer hospitals, which would mean less taxpayer money going to build things, which would be better for all of us.  We should outlaw cheeseburgers!

Once you jump to the conclusion that you have the idea that is "the best for everyone," you have to start worrying about all the other things that could happen if someone else decides they know what's best for you.
Posted by: JakeJZG
« on: January 31, 2008, 05:38:36 PM »

I personally don't care what people do - the bad effects of it are already outlawed (killing, abuse, etc).  If you outlaw cocaine or marijuana you need to outlaw alcohol.

I don't feel it works to outlaw such things.
Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: January 31, 2008, 04:19:40 PM »

Why don't we just handle the actual problems here.  Smoking is not the problem - the use of it without regard to surroundings is.  Now, assuming this is a problem on campus (and I have yet to contact it as a problem) it should be handled on those grounds.

Outlawing this is as absurd as outlawing soft drinks on campus, or saturated fats.  It's idiotic.

What about outlawing cocaine or PCP or alcohol?
Posted by: JakeJZG
« on: January 31, 2008, 01:46:02 AM »

Why don't we just handle the actual problems here.  Smoking is not the problem - the use of it without regard to surroundings is.  Now, assuming this is a problem on campus (and I have yet to contact it as a problem) it should be handled on those grounds.

Outlawing this is as absurd as outlawing soft drinks on campus, or saturated fats.  It's idiotic.
Posted by: pmp6nl
« on: January 28, 2008, 09:05:36 PM »


You can't think like that!  That way lies madness!  If we work out "best for most people" no more good food, no more dangerous sports, no more driving no more freedom.

How did you come to those conclusions?

It is best for most people coupled with a cost/benefit analysis.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar
« on: January 28, 2008, 09:07:44 AM »

That sucks.

Personally I see no reason that I should have to avoid the smoke.  Why should I have to go out of my way?

I am all for banning it, then again I am looking at a cost/benefit analysis.  I am looking at what I think would be the best for the most people.

You can't think like that!  That way lies madness!  If we work out "best for most people" no more good food, no more dangerous sports, no more driving no more freedom.
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