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Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« on: January 21, 2009, 09:03:31 AM »
Alright... I know the arguments.

1. Carbon bars are way more for very little if any weight savings.
2. Carbon is not as crash resistent.
etc. etc.

My question is... I have this new awesome bike. It has carbon components on it. I think if I crash Im pretty much screwed anyways...

So, are carbon bars REALLY that bad? I know that Yearwood is running carbon, obv he's not in a cat 4/5 pack. He said the dampening that he received was immense.

Anyways... we need some input on carbon bars. I think the crash problem might be a moot point on account of me having a Sram red group (carbon fiber brifters).

Thoughts?
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 09:58:16 AM »
In my opinion I agree with what you said: if you crash, the shifters fill go to hell probably before the carbon bar (they do not move inward like shimano does). Therefore If I could afford carbon bars I would probably get them for comfort reason.
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 10:13:32 AM »
Exactly Mario... Granted cost is another factor... but I came across a set of top end bars, NEW (not used) that I can get for ~$115 shipped. The bars I have now are Deda Magics. LISTED at 247g. They are aluminum, my bike is aluminum, I like to sprint. As Yost will tell you, DEDA's bars are notoriously overweight. On weight weenies they have my bars listed at 260g. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say that mine weigh 240g. The bars I'm looking at are 184g ACTUAL.

So I'd be paying $115 to save 56g or a little less than 2oz. Weight isn't a huge deal as my bike will already be sub 16lbs. with cages computer and pedals installed. But if you combine the comfort factor, AND the weight factor... is it worth the loot then?

Also... I suppose I need to consider how flexible they'd be? I mean... how much wattage am I going to waste by having the handlebars dampen them out?
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 10:28:51 AM »
Quote from: Guardrail on January 21, 2009, 10:13:32 AM
Also... I suppose I need to consider how flexible they'd be? I mean... how much wattage am I going to waste by having the handlebars dampen them out?

That's really what I'd be worried about.  You like to sprint, so those bars are going to get a lot of work on them.  I don't think they'll break, but there might be more flex than you'd like.

Having never ridden carbon bars, I wouldn't know about the comfort.  I'm curious now though.
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 10:59:42 AM »
Well... Yearwood said that he was having issues with his hands numbing. He tried a few sets of gloves and ultimately went with some shiny carbon bars. He had the aero wing type and only had the drops wrapped. He said it made all the difference in the world.

I mean... for the price I can get the bars for, I suppose its no big issue because I could always pop my dedas back on if I find them too flexy.

But 3TTT (Rotundo pros specifically) has revamped their manufacturing process. They hired some chap from Ferarri and thus are essentially claiming that they aren't just making carbon bits because they can and mimicking everyone else. They have redesigned EVERYTHING from the ground up. Blah blah blah bullshit. They say its a different era, CF is strong enough to not flex or shatter. In a crash... I guess you can't concern yourself with... they happen and stuff breaks. Part of the game.
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 12:30:35 PM »
i really don't think the bars would flex more than  aluminum. As a matter of fact I believe they would flex less. I've worked with both at work and let me tell you, carbon fiber does not like to give up easily. The other day I looked at some carbon sole shoes at BS and tried to flex them- they did not move a bit! The absorption of CF does not come from the fact that it flexes, but from its construction and nature of the material and glue. If I were you and could afford it I would buy it.
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 01:19:51 PM »
Yeah... the more I was thinking about it the more it makes sense.

Even if I get them and DON'T like them... I'm still paying $115 for bars that I could pop on ebay for more than that.

PS - Mario... when are you going to start making bike parts? It seems like it would be win win? You make millions, and we get cheap parts?
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 01:49:03 PM »
Yost and I have another project for Mario.  We just haven't had time to let him know yet.
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 02:02:32 PM »
Quote from: Guardrail on January 21, 2009, 01:19:51 PM
Yeah... the more I was thinking about it the more it makes sense.

Even if I get them and DON'T like them... I'm still paying $115 for bars that I could pop on ebay for more than that.

PS - Mario... when are you going to start making bike parts? It seems like it would be win win? You make millions, and we get cheap parts?

Why would I start making bike parts??
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Re: Carbon smashy parts (Handlebars)
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 02:58:00 PM »
Quote from: Mario on January 21, 2009, 02:02:32 PM
Why would I start making bike parts??

!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why WOULDN'T you start making bike parts?

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