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More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« on: September 19, 2007, 08:11:43 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Reminiscent of this thread, where all that can be said is that this man was "resisting arrest" and so they had to use force.  However, why arrest him in the first place?  (Forgive me for my loose usage of the term "arrest").

Here's the AP story on it.  I'm actually impressed that the police have the officers on leave, and that Kerry actually had something to say about it.
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Student Arrested, Tasered at Kerry Event

By TRAVIS REED – 15 hours ago

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A university student with a history of taping his own practical jokes was Tasered by campus police and arrested after loudly and repeatedly trying to ask U.S. Sen. John Kerry questions during a campus forum.

Andrew Meyer, 21, spent a night in jail before his release from jail Tuesday morning on his own recognizance. He had no comment when he left. His attorney, Robert Griscti, did not return messages seeking comment.

Videos of the Monday night incident, posted on several Web sites and played repeatedly on television news, show University of Florida police officers pulling Meyer away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

University spokesman Steve Orlando said Meyer was asked to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up. Meyer can be seen refusing to walk away and getting upset that the microphone was cut off.

As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."

Audience members applaud, and Meyer struggles for several seconds as up to four officers try to remove him from the room. Meyer screams for help and tries to break away from officers with his arms flailing at them, then is forced to the ground and officers order him to stop resisting.

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yells at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he is shocked by the Taser. He is then led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?"

Meyer was arrested on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace, according to Alachua County jail records, but the State Attorney's Office had yet to make the formal charging decision. Police recommended charges of resisting arrest with violence, a felony, and disturbing the peace and interfering with school administrative functions, a misdemeanor.

University President J. Bernard Machen issued a statement Tuesday saying he requested the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate the arrest. Officials said it would determine whether the officers used an appropriate level of force.

Machen called the situation "regretful" in an afternoon news conference and said two officers involved in the incident were placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the probe.

"We're absolutely committed to having a safe environment for our faculty and our students so that a free exchange of ideas can occur," Machen said.

Kerry said Tuesday he regretted that a healthy discussion was interrupted and that he never had a dialogue end that way in 37 years of public appearances. He also said he hoped neither the student nor police were injured.

"Whatever happened, the police had a reason, had made their decision that there was something they needed to do. Then it's a law enforcement issue, not mine," he told The Associated Press in Washington.

Meyer has his own Web site and it contains several "comedy" videos that he appears in. In one, he stands in a street with a sign that says "Harry Dies" after the latest Harry Potter book was released. In another, he acts like a drunk while trying to pick up a woman in a bar.

The site also has what is called a "disorganized diatribe" attributed to Meyer that criticizes the Iraq war, the news media for not covering the conflict enough and the American public for paying too much attention to celebrity news.

Associated Press writer Andrew Miga in Washington contributed to this report.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hfZBulx_H-prruRU2Clj0dIgUOww

If Kerry had not said that he would answer the question, this guy would have no chance, since his time was up and it seemed like he wanted to keep standing there.  But that's not how it went down.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 01:22:55 PM »
The police are at it again  >:(
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 02:32:20 PM »
From what I've heard from UF is that the forum was over and he had shoved his way to the Mic without permission. (I cannot corroborate this, of course!)  If you look at the video you can see the man in the suit (who probably works for the campaign security) give the no-go signal.

Yeah, could have been handled better, but I still think it's hilarious!  As Dennis Miller said this video is my new favorite, replacing the squirrel on water skis.  ;)
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 02:32:58 PM »
Well Kerry did say that he would answer the questions.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 02:35:14 PM »
Well Kerry did say that he would answer the questions.

Didn't he, though? 

I figure that they were going to escort him out for causing a public disturbance and violating the rules of the forum, but then he had to get all hissy and resist the police.

Jesus man - do NOT do that. 
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 02:38:31 PM »
I heard Kerry say it several times in the background.

and yes, you shouldnt resist, but was he really doing anything that wrong (at the beginning)?
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2007, 02:42:02 PM »
I heard Kerry say it several times in the background.

and yes, you shouldnt resist, but was he really doing anything that wrong (at the beginning)?

I don't think I would have removed him.  It was obvious (IMO) that he had planned to make a huge scene and get arrested.

Hell, Kerry (having the background in protesting he does) should have walked down there and solved it before he got zapped. 

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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2007, 02:58:58 PM »
You think the John Kerry thing was bad... this is breaking news from Florida!! a 53 year old wheelchair bound woman was tasered over 10 times in 10 mins. and died!! Watch this video!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2mTLJi6rHo

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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2007, 03:05:37 PM »
Welcome to Campus Dakota.

Thats crazy.  Looks like people are tasering for fun?
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2007, 03:25:21 PM »
A Taser gun was not used against the kid - it was a stun gun.  Very different.

Taster Gun:


Stun Gun:

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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2007, 03:30:50 PM »
A Taser gun was not used against the kid - it was a stun gun.  Very different.

Taster Gun:


Stun Gun:



Mmm,Taster guns.  Do they have those at McDonald's?
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 03:32:03 PM »
HAhaha - yeah, it comes in the SuperKid Meal.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2007, 03:43:38 PM »
They serve a similar purpose do they not?
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2007, 03:51:19 PM »
The gun shoots out things with leads, meaning you can stand back and stick someone and taser them.  The stun gun is the handheld thing, you need to be close to use it.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2007, 03:55:04 PM »
I have seen them both used on someone  :o
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2007, 03:59:38 PM »
I have seen them both used on someone  :o

Stun Guns are incredibly effective and much safer than Tasers.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2007, 04:20:11 PM »
What the hell.  Its not like they were in the middle of a riot or something.  this is bs

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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2007, 04:28:42 PM »
What the hell.  Its not like they were in the middle of a riot or something.  this is bs

Stun Guns are SOP for any situation in which normal non-violent resistance. :)  It's not some terror weapon - it stings momentarily and makes you calm the hell down.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2007, 04:43:55 PM »
It's taking me a while to make the transition to realizing that stun guns are much safer than hitting someone over the head with a stick like they used to.
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Re: More idiocy from the police at a John Kerry forum
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2007, 07:22:10 PM »
It's taking me a while to make the transition to realizing that stun guns are much safer than hitting someone over the head with a stick like they used to.

Now that I don't know. 

It's probably more satisfying if one were to be sassed and flailed upon to be able to smather upon the head...but I wouldn't know. *whistles*
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