Author Topic: Velodrome (Read 43112 times)

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2011, 06:59:07 PM »

I think there is another one here, but it would have the same problems (47.914448°, -97.024485°).

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:14:56 PM »

Maybe we should just do this instead. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CgmOI_bN34[/youtube]

Plantains · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:48:36 PM »

SANDERS! BUILD A VELODROME OR RISK FACING THE PENALTIES!

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:46:46 AM »

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national-cycling-association-unveils-plan-velodrome-bmx-park-kingsbridge-armory-article-1.971978

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It would cost $700,000 to build a temporary velodrome in the Kingsbridge Armory and put on free clinics for local youth next spring, Simes said, vowing to get the cash from private sponsors.

I still don't understand the hoopla over six-day races though. Why don't US velodromes focus on getting people into the sport rather than immediately jumping into wanting to hold six-day races?

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2012, 07:43:39 AM »

I'm bringing my wish for a velodrome public. That is most of it.

Meanwhile, it apparently costs $7 million to build a new hockey rink in Grand Forks. I wish we could get people half as excited about cycling (a pursuit that can be learned as a child and practiced to all degrees for a person's entire life, is good exercise, reduces traffic congestion, and is entertaining to watch) as they are about hockey. I'm not dumping on hockey, but maybe some of you understand the frustration.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/229291/

Quote from: Ryan Bakken at the Herald

Advocates for adding a $7 million hockey arena to Grand Forks’ landscape are in the educational stage. The start of the arm-twisting stage is uncertain.

“The big picture is that we have to inform the public that there is a need first,” said Gary Harris, the Grand Forks Park District Foundation’s developmental director.

“That awareness phase will go on until we think we have saturated the population about what this is all about.”

It’s about securing more ice time for hockey players and figure skaters, Harris said. That message has been given to three service groups, with eight more on his schedule.

After the presentations and before the public campaign, the district hopes to sell the arena’s naming rights for $2 million. Soliciting pledges are at least “months away,” Park District Director John Staley said.

Already promised is $2.5 million from the Grand Forks Blue Line Club, a youth hockey organization that gets most of its money from charitable gaming. The Blue Line Club already has its name on an arena near Red River High School.

With the naming rights money and the Blue Line Club pledge, another $2.5 million would be needed from a public campaign.

“We can’t build until we get it all pledged,” Staley said.

An ice time need

Harris’ pitch includes comparing Grand Forks’ skating facilities to two other so-called hockey towns.

“Roseau has three rinks and 250 kids and hosts 10 youth tournaments a season,” he said. “East Grand Forks has three rinks, 400 kids and six tournaments. Grand Forks has four rinks, 1,500 kids and one tournament.”

The $7 million facility would be located near Choice Health and Fitness on the 41 acres owned by the Park District on the far south end. It would have two ice sheets under its roof, with each having seating for 500. The facility would be the home to youth hockey and figure skating competitions on weekends.

“One 24-team tournament on a weekend can bring more than $310,000 into our economy,” Harris said. “Besides the need for more tournaments, there is a need for more places to practice.”

The arena will have eight dressing rooms, with $50,000 commitments for naming rights for three of them.

Hockey has its backers

The fund-raising effort comes on the heels of raising $28 million in donations, sponsorships and leases to remodel the YMCA and build Choice Health & Fitness, which is expected to be ready by Sept. 1.

Staley said it isn’t too soon to start another campaign after the Choice effort, which took four years.

“There is still a lot of money out there and people who are more motivated toward hockey than health and fitness,” Staley said.

He said fund-raising may take two years or more.

“You don’t want to draw any lines in the sand for a timetable,” he said. “That can be a death knell. You start it, see how people are interested and go from there.”

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:50:19 AM »

Oops, I forgot this would get posted to Facebook as a new thread. Rather than rehash some of this idea, if I have time I'll go through the thread on the team board and make sure everything is okay to post out here.

EDIT: Threads merged.

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #26 on:** April 05, 2012, 11:58:31 AM »

...and then some days I feel like this guy: http://www.twincities.com/stpaul/ci_20327390/velodrome-idea-lowertown-gaining-little-traction

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #27 on:** April 19, 2012, 04:37:30 PM »

This (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/nyregion/40-million-pledged-for-brooklyn-bridge-park.html?_r=1) is twenty times (or more) what we would need to build an indoor velodrome in Grand Forks. I guess we would just have to use the rest of it for operational costs for the next fifty years.

Alaska Unicyclist · « **Reply #28 on:** April 19, 2012, 11:09:38 PM »

so true...

Alaska Unicyclist · « **Reply #29 on:** April 19, 2012, 11:10:01 PM »

beek, didn't you know? It's all about cars!

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #30 on:** April 20, 2012, 08:09:35 AM »

You know, the fairgrounds would be another good place for a velodrome. Right next to the dirt car-racing track.

Just had this news from DerKruser:

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2 yrs go there were 2 racing surfaces looking for a home & needing $500k seeding investment to get placed.

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now there are zero. Lots of missed opportunities.

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I posted something to the mcf board, not really expecting anything to happen, but was told that 500 ppl (cont'd)

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@ $1k apiece was nuts. They were quite obvs right... Cyclists are cheap

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #31 on:** August 28, 2012, 01:01:58 PM »

http://2wheeldata.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/velodrome-track-diagram/

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #32 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:51:43 PM »

For half the cost of new turf for the football team (being donated by Altru) we could build a velodrome.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/243902/

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #33 on:** August 30, 2012, 08:06:03 AM »

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CFgQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdavidandtim.com%2Fuploads%2FTim-172-Velodrome.pdf&ei=aGQ_ULCmBcjs2AX294HQDA&usg=AFQjCNEuERhwBl6nrvJb07CKMJ6SD1Pr-Q&cad=rja

OUWxGuesser · « **Reply #34 on:** August 30, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »

where on earth did you find that???

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #35 on:** September 22, 2012, 10:04:20 AM »

It came up in a Google search, I have no idea of the provenance.

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #36 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:11:47 AM »

Just an update, I haven't had a great deal of time to look into this idea in the last year or so. I still think it could be a great draw for people looking for a winter activity (riding, racing, or watching), maybe could be joined onto another project (like a hockey rink) as long as the cost wasn't blow completely out of proportion (remember, we could build an indoor track for less than $500,000 according to this guy). It would be a draw for Winnipeg cyclists year-round and for the Twin Cities during the winter.

Again in other news, the Ralph Engelstad Foundation has pledged $500,000 (matching required) to the $7 million hockey rink mentioned above. Just saying that if you have the right people involved, they know the people with money and stuff will happen...

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #37 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:59:56 PM »

http://clevelandvelodrome.org/ - just got going this August!

Phase I funding plan: http://clevelandvelodrome.org/our-supporters/
Phase II funding plan: http://clevelandvelodrome.org/phase-ii-become-a-donor-or-sponsor/

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #38 on:** December 29, 2012, 06:29:39 PM »

Lookee, the Vandedrome is for sale again!
http://www.fixedgearfever.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=.%2Fviewtopic&p=73499#73499

Sal Atticum · « **Reply #39 on:** March 29, 2013, 04:22:09 PM »

The city of Des Plains, Illinois (north of Chicago) is looking to build an indoor velodrome: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120621/business/706219957/

They have about the same number of people as Grand Forks, granted they are part of a larger metropolitan area. I wonder why the lead with $2 million when the starting price could be quite a bit lower.